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Secretary Clinton's Visit in Moscow (October 13-14)

Remarks on Georgia

SECRETARY CLINTON'S INTERVIEW WITH EKHO MOSKVY RADIO

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2009a/10/130546.htm

 [Excerpt on Georgia]

QUESTION: (In Russian: я спрошу вас прямо: могут ли элементы ПРО быть расположены на территории Грузии, по которой у нас с вами расхождения?)

SECRETARY CLINTON: Yes, and I have no reason to believe at all that anything would be deployed in Georgia. No, I have no reason to believe that, and that is, I know, a matter of great concern to the Russian Federation. But again, that’s why we would like to work with – we would like to eliminate the concerns. We would like to have a joint missile defense program to protect our people, your people, our European friends and allies, to put as broad a missile defense system so that we can guard against short and medium-range missile that might have nuclear weapons.

QUESTION: (In Russian: Госпожа госсекретарь, поднимался ли господином Лавровым вопрос о перевооружении грузинской армии со стороны вашей страны и что вы ему ответили?)

SECRETARY CLINTON: We talked about Georgia. Now we do have a difference there, and even though we are working hard to not just reset our relationship, but deepen our relationship, we will disagree about Georgia. Georgia is providing troops in Afghanistan. We are training Georgians to be able to go to Afghanistan. But we’re also making it very clear that we expect both the Georgians and the South Ossetians and the Abkhazians and everyone else to avoid provocative action, to deal with whatever problems they have through peaceful and diplomatic means.

QUESTION: (In Russian: Но перевооружение и помощь грузинской армии, госпожа госсекретарь, то, что очень волнует Россию.)

SECRETARY CLINTON: Minister Lavrov did not ask me that question, but we will help the Georgian people to feel like they can defend themselves.

QUESTION: (In Russian: Министр Лавров, значит, вел себя как джентльмен. Обычно он задает такие вопросы. С вами он вел себя как джентльмен.)

SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I think he knew the answer. (Laughter.)

[end of excerpt]

 

http://www.echo.msk.ru/programs/beseda/626471-echo/

 

SECRETARY CLINTON'S REMARKS AT TOWN HALL MEETING AT MOSCOW STATE UNIVERSITY

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2009a/10/130567.htm

 [excerpt on Georgia]

QUESTION: (Inaudible) Madame Secretary of State (inaudible) and also for the rousing and thought-provoking speech you gave. And I would like to ask the question regarding the issues we still have (inaudible) despite the general improvement of our relations, and more precisely, the Georgia case. What ways of resolving this conflict would you propose? Thank you.

SECRETARY CLINTON: I’m glad you asked that because this is an area where we have a disagreement. And we have been very candid in expressing our concerns and listening to the Russian concerns. I think that it’s very important that neither the Georgians nor the South Ossetians nor the Abkhazians do anything provocative. And we have told that to the Georgians, and I am confident that the Russian Government has told that to the people of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

It is a very difficult set of relationships at work in Georgia. But the first and most important goal must be to make sure there’s no more conflict. If there are problems to be resolved, they should be put within the diplomatic political arena and to avoid any further military action whatsoever. Therefore, we believe that it’s important to have a constant presence of observers and peacekeepers so that there is no basis or no room for something that would lead to further bloodshed to occur. In my meetings with Minister Lavrov, we have discussed how we can perhaps go back to the drawing boards to create a status-neutral approach to create that kind of buffer zone, that kind of observer position through Geneva, through the UN, through the OSCE.

But this is an issue that we see differently, and I think it’s important that we talk through this. When I became Secretary of State, the relationship between NATO and Russia had been broken off. The NATO-Russia Council had stopped meeting because of the very strong feelings that many people had about what happened in Georgia. And my position was you may disagree with – about what happened in Georgia, but we shouldn’t stop talking. We have to keep talking. So we have reinstated the NATO-Russia Council so that we can have a forum so that the United States and Russia will constantly be in communication when something happens that could be a serious challenge to our relationship. So this is something we’re going to have to keep watching and working on. And I hope that we are able to keep it calm and keep everybody focused on the future and figure out how we can try to come to some resolution of what is a very difficult set of circumstances.

But in general, I think that on most issues we are working well together. Just last week in Zurich, Minister Lavrov and I worked to help ensure that Turkey and Armenia signed a protocol to normalize their relationships, and that was a very significant level of cooperation. Now, we’re working to try to help resolve the dispute between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

So where we have a disagreement, as we do over Georgia, it should not end everything. We should work together. We should try to see where we could end up, working through that disagreement while we continue to try to solve other problems. And that’s my approach to it, and I think that’s the kind of new attitude that we’re bringing to our relationship. (Applause.)

[end of excerpt]

 

REMARKS WITH RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTER SERGEY LAVROV

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2009a/10/130505.htm

 

[excerpt on Georgia]

SECRETARY CLINTON: … Now, we will continue to have disagreements. And I think it’s very important for both the American media and the Russian media to understand that we are different countries. We have different historical experiences, different perspectives. But we are planting those disagreements in a much broader field of cooperation, and hopefully, we are enriching the earth in which this cooperation can take root. We will not see eye-to-eye on Georgia, for example. We just have a difference of opinion. We have made it clear that we will not recognize South Ossetia and Abkhazia. But we are going to continue to work in every other area where we do agree.

[end of excerpt]

 

REMARKS ON SECRETARY CLINTON'S MEETINGS WITH FOREIGN MINISTER LAVROV

Background Briefing by a Senior State Department Official

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2009/oct/130563.htm

 

[excerpt on Georgia]

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: The Secretary highlighted the NATO-Russia Council as an important forum for cooperation on Afghanistan, counterterrorism, counternarcotics, counter-piracy, and theater missile defense. She said it was also an important forum for political issues where we don’t always agree and cited Georgia as an example of that.

[end of excerpt]

 

REMARKS BEFORE MEETING WITH RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTER SERGEY LAVROV

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2009a/10/130506.htm

 

REMARKS AT RECEPTION FOR CIVIL SOCIETY LEADERS

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2009a/10/130516.htm

 

BACKGROUND BRIEFING BY SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL (EN ROUTE MOSCOW)

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2009/oct/130523.htm

 

[excerpt on Georgia]

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Well, I would put a number of things in the positive category. The progress on START, I think both sides have committed to success. Afghan legal transit. We’ve restarted a military-to-military relationship under (inaudible). The Bilateral Presidential Commission up and running in all of these different areas. These are some of the ways in which the reset, if you want to call it that, is moving forward. But as we said at the time – as the President said at the time, we never thought that that would mean that differences would go away. And we still have differences on Georgia. We still have differences on NATO. We still have differences even on some of the areas that we are working together on, including Iran. And that’s cause for further discussion. But the hope is that we can have frank discussions of these areas of common interest and a better – and a better and more trustful spirit then maybe at times in the past.

[end of excerpt]